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Luig |
Posted: Nov 9 2014, 12:35 PM
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Dave Baddams gets a Guernsey on SLDinfo: Australia and F-35Bs: Examining an Option for the Australian Defense Force 08 Nov 2014 SLDinfo
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Luig |
Posted: Nov 17 2014, 12:58 PM
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No time to read this PDF yet but will do soon. Meanwhile.... Jump jets for the ADF? 17 Nov 2014 Richard Brabin-Smith, Benjamin Schreer | Australian Strategic Policy Institute
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Grumpy Cobra |
Posted: Nov 17 2014, 09:56 PM
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These ASPI clowns wouldn't know anything about the benefits of STOVL - what a load of rubbish - they clearly have no idea - foregone opportunity cost of operating Ospreys what tripe - these clowns probably don't even know the LHD has only one flight spot for Ospreys; Low intensity Pacific island ops - says it all about the knowledge of the authors
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Warhawk |
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Gotta say,..in respectable Adult-ship talk, we really can't afford or resource them.
Threat levels current with FTA's (free trade agreements) signed or to be signed( Japan, Sth Korea, China, and India next year) is low,.....it seems that the US of A is the only heart ache who doesn't want to "get on" (Aside from North Korea, ISIL and Russia) Maybe the money would be better spent on a fourth AWD(or at least a warehouse full of SM6's and Land Attack Missiles for the 3) and three more KC-30's. Always worried about the basic bomb Truck issue of using a $105 million dollar aircraft to take out a $50 Thousand 23mm truck mounted weapon or a $2 million Patrol Boat verses the magic BB SAM Shot. Keep the Supers for that, and resource both them and the F-35A till 2035. Mind you we did resource the RANFAA during Indo Konfronski from Mid 1965 ordering A4s and S2s,...but they didn't arrive until after the events some three years later!!! Some thinking needed on that one. Then again,..was it the SAM Bloodhounds based in Darwin that scared them off? As a tax payer,.....I worry at nights about directions we sometimes go to ensure a viable industry based economy,..but aside from the Bushmaster and Frigate upgrade,...we ain't doing us proud( ie:AWD/Subs) So why not base purchases on Service use first,..then the carrot of Industry involvement. But,......both Italy, UK, Japan, and even Israel manufacture "major" components quite out of proportion to the number being bought compared to our buy of 72 F-35As and our involvement. So why so????? It just gived me a headache as there is no direct answer on the where and why so,...... Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Gordy Attached Image ![]() |
Luig |
Posted: Nov 20 2014, 02:17 PM
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Yeah I guess revisionist history is easy. However the RAN was worried about Indonesian Badgers and Kennel missiles. Buying stuff during/after an event may indicate the worry of a repeat? And yet I like the way the RAAF rarely went anywhere with their fast jets over decades until only relatively recently (with Binny at the helm). Perhaps I'm being revisionist in a funny way? Fleet Defence is important to the FLEET - if not to the RAAF. Plenty of accurate historical information in my PDFs here: https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=cbcd63d6340707e6&sa=822839791 OR https://drive.google.com/?authuser=0#folder...aDhIQ0szeVJFY0U
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Luig |
Posted: Nov 23 2014, 02:58 PM
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This info e-mailed to me today which may prove interesting for some? A mixture of F-35 topics in this audio interview however the F-35B and CVF are mentioned most so it'll go here. Sea Control 28 (East Atlantic) – The F-35 March 2014 By LT Matthew Hipple speaking to STEVE GEORGE
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Aardvark |
Posted: Nov 23 2014, 06:16 PM
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Luig
Not exactly sure what you are trying to say here with your quote "And yet I like the way the RAAF rarely went anywhere with their fast jets over decades until only relatively recently (with Binny at the helm)." Could you elaborate please. |
Luig |
Posted: Nov 23 2014, 07:01 PM
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Sure. You missed the last sentence which I had hoped explained it all:
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Luig |
Posted: Nov 26 2014, 04:23 AM
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Another weigh in on the Bs on LHDs from a knowledgeable source. It is good to see some claims other than 'it can't be done' for XYZ reasons. The White Paper may reveal more about the 'ease of fitting Bs on LHDs'. I can happily accept that any special RAN Fixed Wing is dead with some salt water DNA injection into the crabs via Willytown exchanges. :-) It is sad to know that STOVL experienced former A4G personnel are not employed to help out with the White Paper (I'm not one of those of course). Perhaps that can be remedied easily. Binny knows about A4Gs. F-35 strike fighters for the Canberra-class? 24 Nov 2014 David Baddams
http://navalinstitute.com.au/f-35-strike-f...canberra-class/ 212Kb PDF attached is perhaps readable on a tablet? I have no idea - no tablet. This post has been edited by Luig on Nov 26 2014, 04:57 AM Attached File ( Number of downloads: 2417 ) ![]() |
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Luig |
Posted: Nov 28 2014, 07:36 AM
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ONLY some woids from this excellent 6 page PDF article from Dec 2014 edition of Air International are excerpted below. Cats, Traps & a Rooster Tail December 2014 Mark Ayton Air International
pp 42-47 Air International December 2014
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Aardvark |
Posted: Dec 4 2014, 10:05 PM
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RAAF personnel are already part of HMAS Canberra's crew.
http://airforcenews.realviewdigital.com/#folio=6 |
Luig |
Posted: Dec 5 2014, 07:25 AM
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Thanks. I absolutely detest these online ADF news websites - YMMV - I go look for the PDF editions which are so much more readable and of course usable for my purposes. So go here:
[or download the page attached here] YOU MUST RIGHT MOUSE CLICK on the PDF ATTACHMENT link below to 'SAVE AS' to your computer otherwise tears before tea time methinks? http://www.defence.gov.au/news/raafnews/ed...s/5623/5623.pdf (9Mb) This post has been edited by Luig on Dec 5 2014, 07:28 AM Attached File ( Number of downloads: 2140 ) ![]() |
Aardvark |
Posted: Dec 5 2014, 10:12 AM
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Given that one of them is wearing a RAN camo suit these three may be the only people in the ADF entitled to issue of all three camo suits.
We may be moving to a Canadian type system without even realising it. |
Luig |
Posted: Dec 17 2014, 07:37 PM
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Some ideas about how the USMC will go about their Bee Basing Business.... Marines Propose Rapidly Mobile F-35 Operations Marines push shell-game plan for JSF survival 16 Dec 2014 Bill Sweetman | Aviation Week & Space Technology
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Luig |
Posted: Feb 5 2015, 10:55 AM
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This Magazine Cover was sent to me so I have not read the contents - looks interestin' - no?
THE NAVY Jan-Mar 2015 Vol. 77 No.1 Attached Image ![]() |
Luig |
Posted: Feb 25 2015, 12:57 PM
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Lockheed F-35 heads for the ski jump in next key round of tests 24 Feb 2015 Andrea Shalal (Editing by Matthew Lewis)
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Luig |
Posted: Feb 25 2015, 05:55 PM
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Avalon 2015: Bell touts AH-1Z as maritime attack platform for Australia Gareth Jennings, Melbourne 24 Feb 2015
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Luig |
Posted: Mar 14 2015, 11:49 AM
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L 61 Juan Carlos I Apontaje de un harrier - Spanish aircraft carrier operations Published on Dec 24, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KIagzoiytI |
Luig |
Posted: Jun 23 2015, 08:47 PM
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Luig |
Posted: Jul 8 2015, 03:44 AM
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PM's floating fighter jet plan quietly sunk by Defence 07 Jul 2015 John Kerin
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Luig |
Posted: Sep 28 2015, 02:48 AM
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Salty Dogs & Funky Jets October 2015 Mark Ayton
"...Ski Jump Trials Her Majesty’s Ship Queen Elizabeth (R 08) is fitted with a ski jump like no other: a new design tailored to be used by very expensive new aircraft. Launching a 60,000lb F-35B off a ski jump requires some serious maths, engineering and testing. The F-35B ski jump test campaign should have started in March of this year, but was delayed due to brutal sub-zero temperatures and snow that blighted Patuxent River at the time. Aircraft BF-01 was originally assigned to conduct the ski jump events but was unable to remain at Pax while the weather improved. It was already scheduled to deploy to Edwards Air Force Base, California to conduct wet runway and crosswind testing. The test programme comprises two phases, the first of which eventually began on June 19 when BAE Systems test pilot Peter Wilson conducted the first take-off using the ski jump at Pax with F-35B BF-04. Sqn Ldr Edgell told AIR International: “Phase 1 is a risk-reduction phase designed to highlight any significant hardware or software updates that may be required prior to commencing the bulk of testing. It comprises 29 ski-jump launches. “Phase 1 will ensure our models and predictions are correct. If anything needs addressing we can do so in a timely fashion and then go into the 140-sortie Phase 2.” The ski jump used on HMS Queen Elizabeth has a curved leading edge designed to simultaneously launch an F-35B upward and forward with a greater take-off weight and less end-speed than required for an unassisted horizontal launch aboard an LHD-class amphibious assault ship, such as USS Wasp (LHD 1). The reader may be surprised to learn that the ski ramp built at Pax River is based on the type used on the Invincible-class aircraft carriers which is a little bit shorter (50ft) and slightly shallower (0.5º) than the ramp on Queen Elizabeth-class carriers. Sqn Ldr Edgell explained: “The Pax River ramp design process dates back to 2005 but, at the time, the Queen Elizabeth ramp profile was not known. Analysis conducted in 2005 showed we simply needed to use a ramp with a profile that allows us to stay just under the predicted F-35B ultimate loads and the Invincible-class ramp achieved this.” Pax River’s ramp allows the test team to make adjustments for different profiles and encompass everything below the ultimate loads of the aircraft. “Though the verification of our models during phases 1 and 2 we can tweak the control laws to work off other types of ramp, none of which are the same,” said Sqn Ldr Edgell. When the aircraft comes off the end it is ballistic and accelerates to the fly away air speed, typically 10-20kts higher than launch speed, and therefore reduces ground roll. “There’s a fine line between ensuring we have suitable gear loads and fly away speed,” explained Sqn Ldr Edgell. “We want lots of margin on both of those. To achieve margin for gear loads we need to be slow, i.e. start right at the bottom of the ramp. To achieve margin on minimum fly away speed we need to start towards the back of the run-up. We blend the two aspects together and meet in the middle to gain the safest launch spot. For the very first sortie, our spotting distance will be conservative and will launch the jet off the end of the ramp straight into a previously flown flight condition.” Such regimes have been flown several times during short take-offs at the field and STOVL departures. Sqn Ldr Edgell explained an interesting fact about the take-off : “You can be lined up three, four, five hundred feet back from the start of the ramp and as you slam the throttle forwards, the jet doesn’t know it’s about to go up the ski jump. It waits for certain triggers to alert it to the fact it’s going off the ski jump, at which point its flight control system moves the horizontal tails and the nozzles into the optimum position. It needs to hit 45 knots going up the ramp. “The throttle needs to be above 65% ETR, with 6 degrees of attitude and a pitch rate of 6 degrees per second. At that point it moves all of the effectors into the right place. Bear in mind the ski jump at Pax is only 150 feet long, so the aircraft hits all of those parameters with less than 100 feet remaining. By the time it goes off the edge of the ramp all the surfaces and the nozzles are at the optimum position, the aircraft rotates up to the optimum pitch attitude to fly away. It’s pretty clever stuff.” Sqn Ldr Edgell described the launch process: “You slam the throttle and guard the stick. There is no input on the stick required. As the aircraft moves down the tramline of the deck you track the centre line with your feet, just like any other carrier deck take-off, but there’s no pitch input required. The jet flies away. It’s effortless.” In the event of any kind of malfunction, the pilot takes control and manually flies off the edge of the ramp, which is why he must guard the stick during the roll. There is no significant part for the pilot to play in the take-off – the result of a design philosophy to minimise the pilot’s workload. A good example is tracking the centreline on a rolling pitching deck at night. That’s a challenge in a Harrier but in the F-35B it’s his only task so he should do a much better job. The administrative burden on the pilot has been significantly reduced: in this situation to an effortless level. Phase 2 will introduce crosswinds, external stores, asymmetry, minimum performance (minimum deck) launches from the bottom of the ramp, and simulated performance degradation all to increase the aircraft’s flight envelope in Block 3F configuration. That’s imperative work for the UK which will undertake first-in-class flight trials on HMS Queen Elizabeth in the final quarter of 2018...." Air International Magazine OCTOBER 2015 Vol.89 No.4 This post has been edited by Luig on Sep 28 2015, 03:09 AM |
Luig |
Posted: Dec 5 2015, 07:42 PM
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HMAS Adelaide online 04 Dec 2015 Four page (two side be side) into a two page PDF made from URL attached.
http://news.navy.gov.au/en/Dec2015/Fleet/2...ers-service.htm EARLIER STORY HERE: http://news.navy.gov.au/en/Dec2015/Fleet/2541 This post has been edited by Luig on Dec 5 2015, 07:46 PM Attached File ( Number of downloads: 2257 ) ![]() |
FlyCookie |
Posted: Feb 14 2016, 03:33 AM
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Nice report from, Channel 7: the journo obviously did some homework before his sea ride. Good for him. Nice use of a camera-drone, too.
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Grumpy Cobra |
Posted: May 3 2016, 11:33 AM
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If below report is accurate Turkey will be first operator of F-35B/LHD Kebab Combo! Why has that not made Western mainstream media yet? Perhaps because the President's speech was in Turkish? or it was an Abbott style Captain's call or it has been lost in translation...? Now will the ADF take the "No F-35B on LHD Horse Blinkers" off? Construction of TCG Anadolu (Turkey's LHD) started on 30th April https://turkishnavy.net/2016/05/02/the-cons...lu-has-started/ (IMG:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChYmnhrXEAEDR6T.jpg)
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Demon50 |
Posted: May 3 2016, 12:17 PM
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Interesting development Grumpy. I wonder if people are taking note in Canberra ?
I for one certainly hope that the Turkish plan to operate F35Bs from their LHDs is a success and shows a "can do" to other Navies. |
FlyCookie |
Posted: May 4 2016, 05:35 AM
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It is. Confirmed in multiple mainstream Turkish media, and on the president's site. Pic shows the man himself giving the speech, with suitably accoutred LHD model. BTW Grumpy, kebabs in Turkey are surprisingly crap. Strange but true....... :unsure: This post has been edited by FlyCookie on May 4 2016, 05:37 AM Attached Image ![]() |
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Grumpy Cobra |
Posted: May 4 2016, 09:33 AM
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Good picture that, Navantia must be licking their chops with a very successful design with one unit for the Armada and 3 exported (for a total of 4 so far)
Demon50 & Flycookie I can imagine the day when a Spannish, Turkish and Australian boat conduct a PASSEX in the Med, Navantia marketing Gold (I am sure our lot will have an excuse to attend some Jubilee or the like in those nether parts - if not I will settle for Juan Carlos Primero and Anadolu PASSEX for Silver) The Turkish Navy already operate fixed wing maritime patrol aircraft so it would not be a unsurmountable stretch for their Navy to operate the Lightnings - especially as they are not politically correct like us! Flycookie I do not know which unreputable establishment served you a crap Kebab, but I wish them a thousand Camel Flies! PS me thinks the armament on Anadolu is superior to our 4 x 25mm TyHoons for starters |
Luig |
Posted: May 4 2016, 10:13 AM
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Some NEW some OLD info on the Turk F-35Bs on Turk LHD:
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/n...cg-anadolu.html Earlier: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/n...f-35b-jets.html Model Pic: http://www.navyrecognition.com/images/stor...IDEF_2015_3.jpg Attached Image ![]() |
Grumpy Cobra |
Posted: May 5 2016, 06:39 PM
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That CIWS on the bow seems to be mounted on a specially built platform to provide extra elevation (the CIWS is effectively nearly as high as the island) and appears to have a firing arc on both sides of the ship as such, although they have traded flight deck space for it. I think the second CIWS is mounted on the aft of the island. But where have they mounted the RAM?
An interesting photo from Navy daily showing one of the RAAF Air Traffic controllers aboard L01 - RAAF type in NAVY fatigue uniform complete with RAAF flag and RAAF rank insignia! (IMG:http://news.navy.gov.au/images/cache/746x497/crop/images%7Ccms-image-000007702.jpg) |
Grumpy Cobra |
Posted: May 16 2016, 04:55 PM
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Latest RAAF news says our CRABS to post on exchange to fly USMC F-35B's...
(No spelling mistake either) :ph34r: |
Luig |
Posted: May 16 2016, 07:05 PM
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That's a turnip (spelling mistake for 'turn up') for the books. Where do ya geddit?! RAAF News 19 May 2016 http://www.airforce.gov.au/News/Air-Force-Newspaper [PDF Page attached]
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Martin Edwards |
Posted: May 17 2016, 11:44 AM
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There is a long history of ADF pilots flying foreign types on exchange.
It doesn't necessarily mean Australia will acquire that type. |
Luig |
Posted: May 17 2016, 03:19 PM
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Did anyone say otherwise? I know we have and have had RAAF pilots flying F-22s and we are not getting those OR any other types etc. What may be interesting in future is a RAAF pilot flying off a USMC LHA or even a CVF (USMC F-35Bs are guaranteed to use the CVFs in their early years of CVF service) with some potential to also work on one of our 'modified for the task' (THERMION) LHDs - however unlikely that may be. I would imagine the USMC/ADF would want to know if the LHD could be a 'spare deck' for an emergency. Now that is not difficult at all.
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Warhawk |
Posted: May 29 2016, 08:51 PM
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Yes,..multi exchange postings and reciprocal Foreign postings do help the head shed planners and paper writers get a operational doctrine paper and knowledge at best on return, and a insight of the type's capabilities at the least.
Latest is the UAV Predator exchanges This can only serve us well , perhaps as a guest speaker to ambush a Senate Committee with facts! If there's a change of Government soon,..god help us |
Luig |
Posted: May 29 2016, 08:58 PM
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A LOT off topic however perhaps our Navvy may invest in this tech for fifty year?
British companies have developed a new thermal metal coating for use on the flight deck of the UK Royal Navy's Queen Elizabeth Class (QEC) aircraft carriers 25 May 2016 http://www.naval-technology.com/news/newsb...arriers-4901601 & VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3GVSir5OSI "The coating will protect the carriers' flight deck from the heat generated by the thrusters of the new F-35B Lightning II fighter jets. Developed in partnership with Tyne and Wear-based Monitor Coatings, the protective coating is a combination of aluminium & titanium that can endure heat levels of up to 1,500°C (2,700°F). The coating is expected to provide a long-term protection through the life of the aircraft carriers and is considered a key part in the preparation of the first carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth for sea trial next year, followed by flight trials in 2018. Of the total 19,000m² flight deck area of QEC carriers, the coating is applied on the sections measuring 2,000m² by a specially developed robotic spray that fires powdered metal through a plasma jet at a temperature of approximately 10,000°C (18,000°F). The molten drops quickly condense and flatten to create a 2mm-2.5mm thick, rough and tough coating with the steel structure. The thermal coating work is expected to be completed prior to the sea trials.... ..."Working with experts in the UK, we have developed a unique coating to provide the necessary protection to the flight deck of the aircraft carriers and this will ensure they can deliver the UK's carrier strike capability for the next fifty years."...” This post has been edited by Luig on May 29 2016, 08:58 PM |
Grumpy Cobra |
Posted: Jun 14 2016, 11:03 PM
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Looks like HMAS Canberra has had her first foreign visitor, (Note: Have not seen anything to suggest a KIWI NH-90 trapped aboard Canberra during Fiji Assist)
Te Kaha's Sea Sprite (one of the ex RAN air frames) cross decked to Canberra on 8th June 2016 while off Sydney http://images.defence.gov.au/fotoweb/cache...8.xe89e20ba.jpg Jolly Good Edit: OK disregard FlyCook has already posted this in the Kiwi thread... This post has been edited by Grumpy Cobra on Jun 14 2016, 11:06 PM |
Grumpy Cobra |
Posted: Dec 28 2017, 06:46 PM
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Crikey which planet is this journalist on, just saying like because Japan and or South Korea might modify their flat tops to operate F-35B that we will as well - practically zero chance we will !!!!!! :P Our Navy and Airforce has no appetite for fixed wing/LHD ops... full stop! http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17199...copter-carriers
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Grumpy Cobra |
Posted: Feb 9 2018, 06:34 PM
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And another critic bags the F-35B/LHD combo... Its as if the critics are afraid we might actually purchase the F-35B and then operate them off the LHDs - all the negative waves they keep generating...
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Invader26 |
Posted: Feb 12 2018, 06:57 PM
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Well written - Not!
These pseudo academics only look at one aspect of things. For a start the Spanish Armada have successfully operated their AV-8's from their LHD like ship. Australia has two LHD's. Its conceivable that one could be configured for the F-35B like the Spanish and USMC [soon Japan] and the other as an assault helicopter carrier. As one who has served on Melbourne in her A-4/S-2/Sea King days the ship has a presence that our learned friend does not and will probably never understand. Parking a jet equipped LHD off Timor could have been useful as a deterrent or CAS if it had been required. There is more but sadly the naysayers hold the floor,,,, |
Luig |
Posted: Feb 12 2018, 07:17 PM
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I'm not a joiner to 'linkedin' however Serchen BIO here: https://au.linkedin.com/in/andrew-serchen-099085147 As indicated at end of the article above: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/should-austr...-andrew-serchen
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Invader26 |
Posted: Feb 12 2018, 08:03 PM
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When I see stuff like the shipborne F-35B doesn't add anything to the longer ranging F-35A methinks he's spent too much time comparing apples with oranges [not lemons!]...
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Grumpy Cobra |
Posted: Feb 15 2018, 08:06 AM
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Serchen obviously thinks that the RAAF can provide 24 hour CAP with only 5 KC-30s at present a couple thousand miles off shore... lets see how long that lasts...
Have not read all his critique - but does he believe a maximum compliment on the LHD is only 8 F-35B's ? Why does he not also consider MV-22 Osprey Tanker in the mix...? The Brits operated both Hermes and Invincible during the Falklands adventure why does he not consider the 2 LHD mix...? Would have thought the F-35B on LHD would be worth it for our fleet just for the stealth sensor suite alone to network with our DGG and Frigates in taking out threats over the horizon - distributed lethality... not to mention all the other benefits... I don't see any consideration by Serchen of the F-35B being employed from land locations either and all the benefits The B brings to bombed out runways that a KC-30 and F-35A cannot... Thank our stars Singapore and Japan don't have his centric limited mentality... |
Luig |
Posted: Feb 15 2018, 03:11 PM
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"...Would have thought the F-35B on LHD would be worth it for our fleet just for the stealth sensor suite alone to network with our DGG and Frigates in taking out threats over the horizon - distributed lethality... not to mention all the other benefits..." YEP. All the talk about working together RAN/ARMY/RAAF seems to get lost in PELORUS/whatever/JERICHO plans. Seems the people at the top are as DOZY as they appear. :-) As I have mentioned (probably elsewhere a zillion tymes) let the RAAF operate F-35Bs ashore and when required (which may be NEVER) have some of them onboard an LHD and get them OFF ASAP so that they are again supported ASHORE. Ffsake. :-) But hey the RAAF has to develop usefulness WITH THE ARMY with F-35Bs ashore. GET TO IT - MAKE IT SO.
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Grumpy Cobra |
Posted: May 7 2018, 11:37 PM
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Well the new F-35 weapons load trainer just delivered to Williamtown
so there is hope yet we might acquire the F-35B (not that there is any choice in configuring the weapons trainer differently)... :D http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/05/r...to-williamtown/ |
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Luig |
Posted: May 8 2018, 02:59 AM
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Bit of nostalgia for youse neuralgia:
Russian (okay Ukrainian actually) Plane uses ALL of Canberra Airport's Runway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZGXwbPfwQs |
Grumpy Cobra |
Posted: May 9 2018, 11:33 AM
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Meanwhile HMAS Canberra hosted the French President in Sydney and demonstrated to him all the fabulous and very functional and very lethal mostly French designed rotary assets we have acquired (TIGER and MRH90) in a non flying capacity of course...
After which HMAS Canberra promptly shut down her VIP tour deck (AKA flight deck which is superfluous anyway) and (for all the cat lovers out there) has grown some monster size cat whiskers on her flight deck - rumour is she will be transmitting "ABC Radio Australia" non stop 24/7 to the South China Sea in which case the Chinese will abandon all their claims for territory in the absence of any real and credible RAN LHD Air Wing - no I am not kidding see following image: https://www.flickr.com/photos/seawaves/41981433541/ BTW HMAS Adelaide just spent another 3 weeks in dry dock - she is back in the water now...or should I say back on the VIP Tour circuit and will be working up her red carpet skills for hosting more important VIP's during the RIMPAC bash! I say Jolly Good Show WOT - Carry On! This post has been edited by Grumpy Cobra on May 9 2018, 11:42 AM |
SpazSinbad |
Posted: May 4 2021, 01:14 AM
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Two very good recent Oz accented videos explaining the F-35 with the first one of course relevant exactly to the thread title.
The F-35B Option: the Future of Australian Naval Aviation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QIA4bn4Pvc Hypohystericalhistory's guide to the F-35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQgNwrtVoZ4 |
SpazSinbad |
Posted: May 4 2021, 11:20 AM
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Good points and 'money money money always funny in this part of the world' seems to be less of an issue. Having a third STOVL optimised LHD is a great idea with enough F-35Bs flown by whoever wants to do it could be a goer and a nice announcement for the 'PM announcer' with follow through in the never-never I suppose.
However the idea of "F-35Bs on LHDs" plays out the video makes a good point of 'we have not enough Oz public information' to make a decision which lack allows the naysayers freedom. Yes the YESsayers can have the same freedom to invent but we would rather NOT TELL LIES eh. <sigh> The video about the F-35 makes it clear I hope how useful the F-35 is whatever variant is in use. Not much else to say until someone in the ADF wakes up. :-) |
Grumpy Cobra |
Posted: Jul 6 2024, 06:37 PM
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Hats off to Italians they are operating both Harriers and F-35B at same time on Cavour on its current cruise which will take part in Ex Pitch Black shortly...
What a wasted opportunity with our 2 LHD's, Navantia LHD's are a very bad luck story for the F-35B with Turkey forbidden from acquiring the type to operate from their LHD, Spannish Armada not having funds to acquire the type and Australia with 2 x LHD, with our heads buried deep in the sand! Wonder if RAN will consider going with Bayraktar TB.3 on our LHD's once/if proven on TCG Anadolu... but thats enough brain farts the sceptics will say as our LHD's will require a Gazillion dollar upgrade, will take away from the Army vehicle and deck spaces and cannot be done regardless... :P :P |
SpazSinbad |
Posted: Jul 22 2024, 06:22 PM
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Me name here used to be LUIG - I should change it back now the Italians are going good. :D
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