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Posted: Dec 8 2018, 05:03 AM
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Any information (with links if possible) about the RAAF Canberra Bomb Sight used by No.2 Squadron in Vietnam will be appreciated. TIA

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Posted: Dec 8 2018, 02:46 PM
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Posted: Dec 9 2018, 12:01 AM
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It seems a 'T-4' bomb sight was used - but what is that?

RAAF Base Amberley Oral History Recording
24 Sep 2015 George Hatchman - Warrant Officer (Retired). Historian. 23 Squadron Association

"...my job was to maintain the serviceability and the accuracy of the T-4 bomb sites [SIGHTS] to support the Canberra bombing and training programs...."

http://www.defence.gov.au/id/_Master/docs/...Transcripts.pdf (0.5Mb)
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Posted: Dec 9 2018, 10:58 AM
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I will do some images of the bombsight, computor and associated controls on Tuesday and post them. "Yes Computor"

The T4 was a follow on from the T1 (Lancaster) and from what I can see the T2 was fitted to early Canberras then upgraded to T4.
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Posted: Dec 9 2018, 01:10 PM
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Thanks very much 'Aardvark'.

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Posted: Dec 10 2018, 04:36 AM
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F-16.net in the F-35 sub forum of all places astonishingly in an A-10 v F-35 thread a bunch of information about the T-4 has been posted along with links to images.

http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=...iebloke#p407062

THUMBNAIL image from: https://collections.museumvictoria.com.au/items/393377

"Electro-Mechanical Computor - H & B Precision Engineers, Type-T4, Bombsight, Manchester, Great Britain, circa 1959 Photographer: Matilda Vaughan; Source: Museums Victoria"

Better quality images at F-16.net link or original source.

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Posted: Dec 11 2018, 09:43 AM
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Text via e-mail from RAAF Canberra pilot about the T-4/T4 bombsight in use from his pilot perspective (not Navigator).
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"The old Canberra was fitted with a T4 Bombsight. The sight was intended for use at altitude, and the collimator was adapted for low level ops.  It proved very accurate in level flight and was preferred by allies for close air support for that reason. As a pilot I did not get to operate it, but I did practice dive bombing with a 'china graph' mark on the canopy at Evans Head range; it was a reasonable delivery method with a couple of DHs. Alas I never did any pilot deliveries in Vietnam.

In bombing operations with the T4 sight, the navigator called the pilot to make minor corrections to heading with left, right and steady calls and the nav released the bombs. The nav skill was underrated by many, in that these guys used their reading of terrain slope and wind effect deviations and the speed of moving targets in their correction calls and the eventual 'pickle'. No other method was as accurate at the time. Much respect from me for their skills. The Squadron was well thought of for the consistent accuracy and reliability, and was honoured by the USA with presidential citations."


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Just thought this NORDEN bombsight story may be of interest in PDF attached.

Norden Bombsight - AIR & SPACE Magazine May 2020 CHRIS KLIMEK

IT TESTED MORE IMPRESSIVELY THAN IT FOUGHT, BUT ITS MARKETING HIT THE BULLSEYE.

“CARL L. NORDEN’S bombsight calculated a bomb’s drop point based on the delivery aircraft’s speed, range to target, wind, and other variables, causing it to be touted during World War II (among those with the security clearance to know of it) as a miracle device that would destroy targets with pickel-barrel accuracy from 20,000 feet. The U.S. military spent $1.1 billion in 1940s dollars to build 90,000 Nordens, each one a 50-pound analog computer comprising 2,000 intricately joined parts including gyros, motors, gears, mirrors, and levers. If their aircraft were fatally hit, bombardiers were under orders to destroy the secret machine rather than allow it to be captured.

While showing great promise in daylight testing, in combat, it failed to produce notably better results than similar devices fielded by other air forces. By the time the United States entered the war, the Germans had copied Norden’s synchronous- release, gyroscopically-stabilized design thanks to a spy at Norden’s factory named Hermann Lang.”

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Posted: Mar 21 2020, 05:59 AM
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NORDEN Bomb Sight from the PDF above Air & Space Magazine May 2020.

Photo Caption: "This Norden M-9 is installed in the B-17G Shoo Shoo Baby, assigned in 1944 to the 91st Bomb Group based in England. All Nordens had a rubberized eyepiece, which often created a black circle around the bombardier’s eye."

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