Other Aircraft operated by the RAAF & ADF, Can you add any more to the list?

Hi Folks,

While I was trawling around for information for our Other RAAF & ADF Aircraft Page I found the following aircraft registered to the Commonweath of Australia:

VH-HTM Piper PA-28-181 Archer II (HQ 325 Expiditionary Combat Support, RAAF Richmond)

VH-UQO Cessna 150M 15077008 (RAAF Wiliamtown)

VH-WXS Cessna A150M 1500657 (RAAF Wiliamtown)

I have a feeling the the two Cessna's are linked to the RAAF Williamtown Flying Club and the Piper to the RAAF Richmond Flying Club, but I am by no means certain.

Can anyone shed some more light?

Also, when I was a lad, I recall a Cessna (universally known as the "Yellow Peril") being operated by the AirTC and if my memory serves me correctly, it was very aporpriately registered as VH-ATC.

Does any one have any info and/or photos of these aircraft or any others that we have missed?

Cheers

Brendan

There were a couple operated at Amberley too for the cadets in 1990s, poss still there - cadets not called ATC these days.

Unsure of type - they are just 'bug smashers' to me - but single-eng, low wing, bubble side-by-side canopy. Tomahawk??

There are a number of types including the Piper Tomahawk that look very "RAAF"
Some even have the Kangaroo roundel
(Piper PA-38-112 Tomahawk VH-TLA(2) c/n 38-78A0491 of Australian Air Force Cadets approaches Bundaberg on 2Aug07 as a fly-in guest of the Wide Bay Australia airshow. Photo Bruce Linwood)
Owned by AIR CADETS SCHOOL OF AVIATION INC. they also have VH-FTI and VH-UAL in similar quasi-RAAF schemes

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Thanks Batman & Martin,

I'll keep looking and see what we can discover.

I have photos of the "Yellow Peril" somewhare at home and it was painted overall yellow, with the title "AIR CADETS" in black on both side of the fuselage and very strangely, type D RAF style roundels on the wings instead of 'roo roudels.

I wonder if anyone else here recalls it?

I can feel another aircraft page or two coming on!

Cheers

BC

I decided to resurrect this subject seeing as how we seem to be on an ''obscure types'' mission
Piper Tomahawk VH-HAW
Note the kangaroo in the roundel has a joey!

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Piper Tomahawk VH-HAY

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Piper Tomahawk VH-BVW

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Thanks Martin,

I've got to put together a page on these soon.

Very helpful!

Cheers

BC

That's six I have identified so far VH-BVW, FTI, HAW, HAY, TLA, UAL
Any more?
Did they use anything other than Tomahawks?

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Thanks,

I remember them using a yellow Cessna (172?) with Type D Roundels and the words "Air Cadets" in black on the fuselage sides in the 1980's in Victoria- Know to all as the "Yellow Peril".

I'm sure that I have photos at home somewhere!

BC

This is the current Inventory for the AAFC fleet owned and operated by the Air Cadets School of Aviation Inc on behalf of No. 2 Wing AAFC School of Aviation 211 and 229 Flights:

MARK/ Manufacturer/ Model/ Serial Number

VH-JAM PIPER AIRCRAFT CORP PA-38-112 38-82A0078
VH-FTI PIPER AIRCRAFT CORP PA-38-112 38-79A1145
VH-UAL PIPER AIRCRAFT CORP PA-38-112 38-79A0209
VH-TLA PIPER AIRCRAFT CORP PA-38-112 38-78A0491
VH-TOJ PIPER AIRCRAFT CORP PA-25-235 25-2694


Gliders:

VH-GTW ALEXANDER SCHLEICHER SEGELFLUGZEUGBAU KA6-CR 6623
VH-GKR WSK PZL-KROSNO KR-03A PUCHATEK Mar-18
VH-GKL WSK PZL-KROSNO KR-03A PUCHATEK Mar-21
VH-HDV LET N.P. KUNOVICE BLANIK L-13 174912


BC

Interesting that they have a Piper Pawnee, for tail dragger training?
No, it would be the tug for the gliders.
VH-JAM is the only Tomahawk not wearing a Fanta Can scheme

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Quite Right

The PA25 is used as a glider tug.

See it's potted history at: http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac1/austmz/VH-TOJ.html

(IMG:http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac1/austmz/VH-TOJ%20McDonell.jpg)


BC

Just to get things started, I've got a first draft together of a page for the Piper PA-38 Tomahawk, but there is plenty to add yet!

I've also added placeholders at http://www.adf-gallery.com.au/other.htm for the other types discussed in this thread.

Cheers


BC



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And there are more types to look into operated by 3 Wing Aviation in NSW too!

http://www.aviation.3wg.aafc.org.au/about/...liders-and-tugs

ASK13
ASK21
DG1001C (Coming soon apparently)
Grob 102 Twin II
Grob 103 Twin II Acro
PA25-260 Pawnee
PA25-235 Pawnee (Dual Controls)
SZD Junior

The list is building!

Cheers

BC

From Matt Henderson from our Facebook group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/23355241341...t=group_comment


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Very interesting.

VH-BVM is privately owned, so I'd be interested to know whether there is any particular association the entitles the owner to use these markings!


Anyway, I have now created pages for all of the types mentioned in this thread so far.

Each of these pages have a little way to go yet, but corrections, additional information and of course photos that we can use, would be very much appreciated.

You can find all of the new pages at http://www.adf-serials.com.au/other.htm

Cheers

BC

Can anyone help with any info on this 1965 Victa Airtourer 100 VH-MFO (C/N 132)?

I photographed it in the mid 1980's at RAAF East Sale in the CFS hangar along with the CT-4's on charge there at the time.

As you can see, it's in the Fanta Can scheme with a CFS crest on the fin and the round marking under the windscreen is a Roulettes sticker popoular at the time ( I had the same one on the back of my 1975 Toyota Corona at the time!).

I suspect it might have had something to do the East Sale Flying Club, but my recollections are a bit hazy.


Cheers

BC

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I've found the Yellow Peril!

It is 1963 Cessna 172D VH-DIN.

After digging through my photos from the 1980's I found a shot of it taken at RAAF Point Cook on 21 August 1983.

And who should be there standing in front of it - my gorgeous girlfriend - who I married nearly three years later and of course we are still together today.

We both laughed when I found the shot because she knew that I'd been looking for a photo of this aircraft for several weeks, only to find her standing right in front of it!

It was of course in the very last box of print photos in my collection that I looked in.

I have started putting a page together on this airframe at http://www.adf-serials.com.au/cessna172.htm

:D

Brendan C

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And to be fair to her, this is the shot that she took of me on the same day!

Hard to credit that I was ever skinny and had long hair!

The keen eyed observers will note where I dropped my camera cover!

Cheers

BC

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G'day guys.

Of the above photographed aircraft, I've flown Tomohawks VH-HAY, HAW, BVW and Warrior BVM. They were operated by Aero Training Camden (now defunct I believe) and operated for AIRTC flight training camps. A friend of mine now owns HAW.

VH-HTM is indeed operated by RAAF Richmond Aero club, Ive flown it a couple of times too.


This post has been edited by rockdropper on Apr 22 2014, 10:53 PM

I can submit some of my own photos too if you would like, Brendan?

Hi Josh,

Thanks for that.

Any photos and extra info that you have would be very much appreciated!

If you can upload any photos that you have to our Image Upload Page - that would be great!

I think I'll have to create a section for the various RAAF Aeroclubs as well as the AirTC/AAFC at http://www.adf-gallery.com.au/other.htm .

Cheers

BC

A short video of Air Cadets and their gliders VH-NGA and -NGF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K6niNfcuzw...0U9CBL4X3a-e-Gw

Note Piper PA-25 VH-KLZ registered to NSW Air Cadets Association

Martin,

I just logged on to post the very same information that you've placed in the post above! :lol:

The new gliders for the Cadets are the DG Flugzeugbau DG-1000S that we started a page for a few weeks ago.

DG Flugzeugbau DG-1000S

There are 19 coming!

The registration details for VH-NGA and VH-NGF are:

VH NGA

Manufacturer: DG FLUGZEUGBAU GMBH
Model: DG-1000S
Serial number: 10-211S133
Aircraft first registered in Australia: 19 March 2014
Year of manufacture: 2013

Full Registration
Registration holder as of 19 March 2014

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA (CADETS BRANCH - AIR FORCE)

Cadets Branch - Air Force, F4-2-016 28 Fairbairn Ave
MAJURA ACT 2609
AUSTRALIA

Registered operator as of 19 March 2014

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA (CADETS BRANCH - AIR FORCE)

Cadets Branch - Air Force, F4-2-016 28 Fairbairn Ave
MAJURA ACT 2609
AUSTRALIA

______________________________________________________________

VH NGF

Manufacturer: DG FLUGZEUGBAU GMBH
Model: DG-1000S
Serial number: 10-212S134
Aircraft first registered in Australia: 28 March 2014
Year of manufacture: 2014

Full Registration
Registration holder as of 28 March 2014

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA (CADETS BRANCH - AIR FORCE)

Cadets Branch - Air Force, F4-2-016 28 Fairbairn Ave
MAJURA ACT 2609
AUSTRALIA

Registered operator as of 28 March 2014

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA (CADETS BRANCH - AIR FORCE)

Cadets Branch - Air Force, F4-2-016 28 Fairbairn Ave
MAJURA ACT 2609
AUSTRALIA

And the third is VH-NGH!



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It appears that in additional to the orders for the 19 DG's, other new equipment is on its way:

•· The Air Force has ordered 11 (eleven) Schleicher ASK 21 Mi for basic training of cadets
•· All of these gliders are self launchers and come with trailers
•· The aircraft will be based at four different training centers throughout the country
•· Deliveries begin in August of 2014 and the contract includes shipping, registration, aircraft inspection, delivery and operator training


See http://soaring.eu/?m=201401

Cheers

BC

Australian Air Force Cadet’s meet Air Force Roulettes http://raaf.gov.au/1lX59UU

Staff and members of the Australian Air Force Cadet’s (AAFC) Number 206 Junior Non-Commissioned Officers Course with members of the RAAF Roulette team during the RAAF Roulettes interactive flying display at RAAF Williams - Point Cook.

Please note the following distinction:
Australian Air Force Cadets (AAFC), along with Australian Navy Cadets and Australian Army Cadets are members of the Australian Defence Force (ADF) Cadets.
ADF Cadets are participants in the youth development program conducted by the three services in cooperation with the community but they are not members of the ADF.
Officer Cadets (Air Force) and Staff Cadets (Army) are trainee officers undertaking instruction at the Australian Defence Force Academy or the Air Force Officers' Training School or Royal Military College Duntroon,
The terms 'ADF Cadets', 'Officer Cadets' and 'Staff Cadets' are not interchangeable.
Trainee naval officers are not cadets; they are commissioned officers with the rank of Midshipman.


More images: http://raaf.gov.au/1lX59UU
Read more information about the Air Force Cadets (AAFC): http://www.aafc.org.au/who-we-are/

It's amazing what you can pick up in Routine Orders sometimes!

Check out page 6 of these AAFC RO's for the planned distribution of the new DG-1001 Club and ASK-21 Mi fleets:

http://321sqn.aafc.org.au/sites/default/fi...I_04_2014_0.pdf

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Hi All,

I received an email from Ian Callander reminding me that the RAAF briefly operated a Pitts Special:

I recall having a conversation with Peter Malone back in the mid eighties where he mentioned that too.

Does anyone else have any information on this so that we can track down the details?

Cheers

Brendan

(Thanks again Ian).

.. and a further clue from Ian:

I wonder if this is the same Ian Callander (Bones) that Kurt Finger and I used to share a room with at East Sale in the early 60s?

This post has been edited by Rod Farquhar on Jul 30 2014, 10:44 PM

I recall having a conversation with Peter Malone back in the mid eighties where he mentioned that too.

Does anyone else have any information on this so that we can track down the details?

Cheers

Brendan

(Thanks again Ian).

Around that time I was at ARDU in Laverton, we were doing inverted flat spin trials on the CT4, even fitted a spin recovery chute, luckily never deployed in anger. I believe a couple of our pilots received training in inverted spins from Chris Sperou in A Pitts, possibly at Richmond, was not at Laverton.

Hi
Pitts Special: Early 70's
Thinking back to the time I saw a Pitts Special operating at Richmond for inverted spinning trials. I saw the aircraft depart from between 2AD Aircraft Metal Workers C130 wing repair hangar and 36/37 Sqn hangar so I guess the pilot / pilots were operating out of one of these crew rooms.
Hope this jogs someones memory.
Cheers
Ian C